ID3V2 Icon

Discussion:

ID3V2 Icon

Dale Preston

2007-01-06 16:40:37 UTC

On the ID3.org Developer Information page, there's a place that is supposed
to show an icon for ID3V2 but it isn't displaying correctly and even if it
were it would not provide access to all of the embedded versions of the
icon. Is there a way to download the full .ICO file?

Thanks,

Dale Preston

Dale Preston

2007-01-11 04:42:12 UTC

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Maybe it's an IE 7 issue. I still don't get the image in the developer info
page but the link you included here shows a picture - just not the whole
icon file.

If you're able to get the ico file, would you mind emailing it to me? It
would surely be appreciated.

Thanks,

Dale Preston

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan O'Neill [mailto:***@northpb.com]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:49 PM
To: ***@id3.org
Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] ID3V2 Icon

Post by Dale Preston
On the ID3.org Developer Information page, there's a place that is
supposed to show an icon for ID3V2 but it isn't displaying correctly and
even if it were it would not provide access to all of the embedded
versions of the icon. Is there a way to download the full ICO file?

All the graphics seem to be displaying properly. Here is a link to the
.ico image, or you can right click on the image and save it.

http://www.id3.org/Developer_Information?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=id3
v2.ico

dan

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Dale Preston

2007-01-24 02:28:54 UTC

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Thank you. I still don't have the icon. One response suggests that there's
no time to develop one. I guess that person didn't know that the icon
already exists. Others suggest that IE should just download the icon but it
doesn't. The HTML in the page is not a link to the file nor does it offer
the address of the file. The HTML calls a script that retrieves and renders
the file. I have viewed the source of the page and there is no way to get
the icon URL from that code.

Whoever created the new site just made a mistake. If you render a Win32
icon as an image, you get an image, not an icon. A Win32 icon is not a
bitmap but rather a collection of bitmaps. While I am sure the code for
rendering the images, rather than simply letting the web server and HTML
render the images, is real nifty but it is a mistake to use it for rendering
icons.

It is getting really frustrating. I guess it was too much to ask for one of
those who have the full icon to just email it to me. One was able to email
a reply to my request stating how to get the icon with wget - apparently a
program but I am not familiar with its use - and stated that he had the
icon. It seems it would have been just as easy, perhaps easier, to simply
email the icon as I had pleaded.

Thanks for trying, Manuel.

Dale

From: Manuel Teuber [mailto:***@yahoo.de]
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 1:54 AM
To: ***@id3.org
Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] ID3V2 Icon

I know it's a bit late for this answer but unfortunately i'm not able to
check my emails regularly.
If you want to get the icon file just copy the adress of this file and
insert it into the adress field of your browser. Then you might be able to
download it. At least Firefox offers me to download it then.

-Manuel

Dale Preston schrieb:

Maybe it's an IE 7 issue. I still don't get the image in the developer info
page but the link you included here shows a picture - just not the whole
icon file.

If you're able to get the ico file, would you mind emailing it to me? It
would surely be appreciated.

Thanks,

Dale Preston

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan O'Neill [mailto:***@northpb.com]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:49 PM
To: ***@id3.org
Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] ID3V2 Icon

Dale Preston wrote:

On the ID3.org Developer Information page, there's a place that is
supposed to show an icon for ID3V2 but it isn't displaying correctly and
even if it were it would not provide access to all of the embedded
versions of the icon. Is there a way to download the full ICO file?

All the graphics seem to be displaying properly. Here is a link to the
.ico image, or you can right click on the image and save it.

http://www.id3.org/Developer_Information?action=AttachFile
<http://www.id3.org/Developer_Information?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=id
3> &do=get&target=id3
v2.ico

dan

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Dale Preston

2007-01-25 02:09:50 UTC

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Thank you.

I am sorry you felt I was whining. I wasn't. I didn't pursue the thread or
respond to comments like "the team doesn't have time to develop icons" when,
in fact, the web page advertises the existence of an icon. Finally, after
many days, someone else offered a suggestion. I took the opportunity to
explain why I was unable to get the icon and to repeat my simple request to
have it emailed.

The link is still wrong. Granted, it may work with Mozilla, but 90% of ID3
tag users and developers have IE. Is it the specific intent of the ID3 team
to exclude IE users? I don't think so. That means the failure of the icon
to work as expected in IE is a bug. I just pointed it out. There was no
whining.

Thank you again for sending the icon. It is much appreciated.

Dale Preston

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Mearns [mailto:***@coe.neu.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:31 AM
To: ***@id3.org
Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] ID3V2 Icon

He's right it doesn't work (at least not in an obvious way) with IE, but Moz
is free and vastly superior, and allows you to save the given url
(http://id3.org/Developer_Information?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=id3v2.
ico)
as an icon file. (Win32 icon file with multiple sizes and color pallets,
circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one...)

Now I'm highly tempted not to do this because, frankly, you're whining.
But I've attached the icon file so this damned thread can just stop.

-Brian

I used Firefox to get the icon, as suggested.
http://cdtag.com/id3v2icon.zip

Well, I could email you the icon file. But this would be the same
file that is downloaded from the link that Dan O'Neill originally posted.
(http://id3.org/Developer_Information?action=AttachFile&do=get&target
=id3v2.ico
<http://id3.org/Developer_Information?action=AttachFile&do=get&target
=id3v2.ico>)
When I save the file from that link, I get an icon file that has 4
different icons (32x32 16 color, 32x32 256 color, 48x48 16 color,
48x48 256 color). From what you wrote it seems like you already tried
downloading this file and that isn't what you want so I'm guessing
that emailing it to you would be a waste of time?
--Jim
----- Original Message -----
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:28 PM
*Subject:* RE: [ID3 Dev] ID3V2 Icon
Thank you. I still don't have the icon. One response suggests that
there's no time to develop one. I guess that person didn't know
that the icon already exists. Others suggest that IE should just
download the icon but it doesn't. The HTML in the page is not a
link to the file nor does it offer the address of the file. The
HTML calls a script that retrieves and renders the file. I have
viewed the source of the page and there is no way to get the icon
URL from that code.
Whoever created the new site just made a mistake. If you render a
Win32 icon as an image, you get an image, not an icon. A Win32
icon is not a bitmap but rather a collection of bitmaps. While I
am sure the code for rendering the images, rather than simply
letting the web server and HTML render the images, is real nifty
but it is a mistake to use it for rendering icons.
It is getting really frustrating. I guess it was too much to ask
for one of those who have the full icon to just email it to me.
One was able to email a reply to my request stating how to get the
icon with wget - apparently a program but I am not familiar with
its use - and stated that he had the icon. It seems it would have
been just as easy, perhaps easier, to simply email the icon as I
had pleaded.
Thanks for trying, Manuel.
Dale
*Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2007 1:54 AM
*Subject:* Re: [ID3 Dev] ID3V2 Icon
I know it's a bit late for this answer but unfortunately i'm not
able to check my emails regularly.
If you want to get the icon file just copy the adress of this file
and insert it into the adress field of your browser. Then you
might be able to download it. At least Firefox offers me to
download it then.
-Manuel
Maybe it's an IE 7 issue. I still don't get the image in the developer info
page but the link you included here shows a picture - just not the whole
icon file.
If you're able to get the ico file, would you mind emailing it to me? It
would surely be appreciated.
Thanks,
Dale Preston
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] ID3V2 Icon
On the ID3.org Developer Information page, there's a place that is
supposed to show an icon for ID3V2 but it isn't displaying correctly and
even if it were it would not provide access to all of the embedded
versions of the icon. Is there a way to download the full ICO file?
All the graphics seem to be displaying properly. Here is a link to the
.ico image, or you can right click on the image and save it.
http://www.id3.org/Developer_Information?action=AttachFile&do=get&tar
get=id3
<http://www.id3.org/Developer_Information?action=AttachFile&do=get&ta
rget=id3>
v2.ico
dan
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Dale Preston

2007-01-26 03:07:33 UTC

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Thanks, Dan for looking in to that.

Dale

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan O'Neill [mailto:***@northpb.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:16 AM
To: ***@id3.org
Subject: [ID3 Dev] Apache mime types fixed (was Re: [ID3 Dev] ID3V2 Icon)

Hi Dale, Brian and others,

Apache was delivering the .ico file with a text/plain mime type. I've
added image/x-icon mime type to /etc/mime.types and the icon file now
displays properly in IE.

I'm a bit stumped as to why IE wants to save these files as .bmp
(bitmap) files when you right click Save Picture As. Solutions are
always welcome - drop me a note directly if you've got an answer.

I'll also note that Brian has edited the page and placed the .ico file
into a zip file and made that link available right below the .ico image.

Regards,

Dan

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Dale Preston

2007-01-26 03:09:50 UTC

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Brian,

Thanks for adding the zip file - and I think it is still necessary. While
Dan's fix makes the icon visible, IE still treats it as a bitmap and you
can't save it as an icon file. Between the two fixes, it should work great.

Thanks again for your help,

Dale

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Mearns [mailto:***@coe.neu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 5:24 AM
To: ***@id3.org
Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] Apache mime types fixed (was Re: [ID3 Dev] ID3V2
Icon)

Well I'll be damned. I stand corrected that the bug could only be fixed
in IE. Though it is still an IE bug, Dan has come up with a way to fix
it. I don't think the zip link I added is necessary any longer, right?

-Brian

Post by Dale Preston
Hi Dale, Brian and others,
Apache was delivering the .ico file with a text/plain mime type. I've
added image/x-icon mime type to /etc/mime.types and the icon file now
displays properly in IE.
I'm a bit stumped as to why IE wants to save these files as .bmp
(bitmap) files when you right click Save Picture As. Solutions are
always welcome - drop me a note directly if you've got an answer.
I'll also note that Brian has edited the page and placed the .ico file
into a zip file and made that link available right below the .ico image.
Regards,
Dan
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Dale Preston

2007-01-25 02:30:49 UTC

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I thought the circles and arrows and paragraph on the back of each one
version of the icon had 27 pictures in it.

Dale

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Mearns [mailto:***@coe.neu.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:31 AM
To: ***@id3.org
Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] ID3V2 Icon

He's right it doesn't work (at least not in an obvious way) with IE, but Moz
is free and vastly superior, and allows you to save the given url
(http://id3.org/Developer_Information?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=id3v2.
ico)
as an icon file. (Win32 icon file with multiple sizes and color pallets,
circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one...)

Now I'm highly tempted not to do this because, frankly, you're whining.
But I've attached the icon file so this damned thread can just stop.

-Brian

I used Firefox to get the icon, as suggested.
http://cdtag.com/id3v2icon.zip

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Dale Preston

2007-01-25 02:28:21 UTC

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Well, I am stunned. This is certainly not the introduction to the group I
had hoped for.

I have entered the link you gave into IE 6 and IE 7 on multiple computers
each. In no case was I offered the opportunity to download. All I got was
a single bitmap image displayed in the browser. If I right click the image
and select to save, I am offered only to save the single bitmap. The bitmap
I save is 3126 bytes. If I rename it to .ico and open it in Visual Studio
2005, I get a single 32x32 bitmap of 16 colors. I do not get a bitmap file.

I would like to express my sincere gratitude to those who sought to help but
my remarks were not directed to or about those responses.

My remarks, which were not flaming, only detailed, were targeted at those
who gave abrupt and negative responses without even understanding the issue.
For instance, one respondent stated that the team doesn't have time to
develop icons and if I wanted an icon, there were many tools available for
creating them. Clearly, this is an uninformed response offered without
thought or consideration of the issue. I'm not sure for what I would owe
this person an apology.

I am sorry that my first exposure to and in the group has turned so
negative. It certainly wasn't my intention. All I had asked for was help
in getting the icon and to point out functionality that wasn't always
working as expected.

Regards,

Dale Preston

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Bennett [mailto:***@ayup.limey.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:45 PM
To: Dale Preston
Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] ID3V2 Icon

Attached. Please do me a favor and compare the file size with what you get
from a right click on the image and "save image as".

If it is the same, an apology to the list would be appreciated.

I tested with 2 versions of IE and I can download the icon file with 4
different sizes in it.

-ben

Post by Dale Preston
Thank you. I still don't have the icon. One response suggests that
there's no time to develop one. I guess that person didn't know that
the icon already exists. Others suggest that IE should just download the

icon but it

Post by Dale Preston
doesn't. The HTML in the page is not a link to the file nor does it

offer

Post by Dale Preston
the address of the file. The HTML calls a script that retrieves and
renders the file. I have viewed the source of the page and there is
no way to get the icon URL from that code.
Whoever created the new site just made a mistake. If you render a
Win32 icon as an image, you get an image, not an icon. A Win32 icon
is not a bitmap but rather a collection of bitmaps. While I am sure
the code for rendering the images, rather than simply letting the web
server and HTML render the images, is real nifty but it is a mistake
to use it for rendering icons.
It is getting really frustrating. I guess it was too much to ask for
one of those who have the full icon to just email it to me. One was
able to email a reply to my request stating how to get the icon with
wget - apparently a program but I am not familiar with its use - and
stated that he had the icon. It seems it would have been just as
easy, perhaps easier, to simply email the icon as I had pleaded.
Thanks for trying, Manuel.
Dale
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 1:54 AM
Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] ID3V2 Icon
I know it's a bit late for this answer but unfortunately i'm not able
to check my emails regularly.
If you want to get the icon file just copy the adress of this file and
insert it into the adress field of your browser. Then you might be
able to download it. At least Firefox offers me to download it then.
-Manuel
Maybe it's an IE 7 issue. I still don't get the image in the
developer info page but the link you included here shows a picture -
just not the whole icon file.
If you're able to get the ico file, would you mind emailing it to me?
It would surely be appreciated.
Thanks,
Dale Preston
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [ID3 Dev] ID3V2 Icon
On the ID3.org Developer Information page, there's a place that is
supposed to show an icon for ID3V2 but it isn't displaying correctly
and even if it were it would not provide access to all of the embedded
versions of the icon. Is there a way to download the full ICO file?
All the graphics seem to be displaying properly. Here is a link to the
.ico image, or you can right click on the image and save it.
http://www.id3.org/Developer_Information?action=AttachFile
<http://www.id3.org/Developer_Information?action=AttachFile&do=get&tar
get=id
3> &do=get&target=id3
v2.ico
dan
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Dale Preston

2007-01-14 14:38:19 UTC

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There's still no good reply to the ID3V2 Icon problem. I'm sure you all
know that an icon is more than a bitmap; as the text about the ID3V2 icon
states, there are several sizes of icons in the id3v2.ico icon. Simply
right-clicking the image shown on a web page and saving does not get the
icon file; it gets the bitmap of one icon in the file.

If anyone responsible for maintaining those web pages reads this list,
please consider adding a link directly to the icon file rather than a script
to display the file in a browser.

If anyone has this icon file, I would sure appreciate it if you'd send it to
me.

Dale Preston