ISRC Codes

[Marvin Hamlet]

Hi,

As a publisher, I know that prior to publishing, I can populate my ID3 tags with all sorts of information; but I'm also aware that any end-user can simply delete or modify any of my tags if they so choose. I know that using custom tags can make this a little more difficult, since some tag editors are only capable of deleting fields they recognise and not just ALL ID3 tags, but the potential is still there.

I'd love it if there was a way to lock a tag somehow, and if any of you know of a way, I'd be glad to hear it, but that's not my main question today...

I want to add an ISRC code to a product, but I want to know if the ISRC field in ID3 is simply an editible tag that can easily be deleted/modified or if it can act like one of the fixed file attributes like the ones I've just described?

If you compare it to ISAN, which is a similar system used for video files, all the major video formats have a placeholder for an ISAN code, which is separate from the tags, meaning one can be confident of it remaining as part of the file regardless of any additional tag editing. I want to know if ISRC can be embedded in the same way for audio files?

I realise this may not really come under the ID3 domain, but I'm hoping some of you could shed some light or point me in the right direction?

Thanks

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[Mark Smith]

Marvin - an mp3 file, as I understand it, is simply a long list of
audio frames (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3). There's nowhere to
embed any info other than that specified in the frame spec, which
doesn't include ISRC or anything like it.

Any id3 tag is extraneous to the mp3 spec itself, and so can be
removed/edited without affecting the playability of the mp3 file - so
I think what you're hoping for can't really be done. :(

Best wishes,

Mark Smith

Post by Marvin Hamlet
Hi,
As a publisher, I know that prior to publishing, I can populate my
ID3 tags with all sorts of information; but I'm also aware that any
end-user can simply delete or modify any of my tags if they so
choose. I know that using custom tags can make this a little more
difficult, since some tag editors are only capable of deleting
fields they recognise and not just ALL ID3 tags, but the potential
is still there.
I'd love it if there was a way to lock a tag somehow, and if any of
you know of a way, I'd be glad to hear it, but that's not my main
question today...
I want to add an ISRC code to a product, but I want to know if the
ISRC field in ID3 is simply an editible tag that can easily be
deleted/modified or if it can act like one of the fixed file
attributes like the ones I've just described?
If you compare it to ISAN, which is a similar system used for video
files, all the major video formats have a placeholder for an ISAN
code, which is separate from the tags, meaning one can be confident
of it remaining as part of the file regardless of any additional
tag editing. I want to know if ISRC can be embedded in the same way
for audio files?
I realise this may not really come under the ID3 domain, but I'm
hoping some of you could shed some light or point me in the right
direction?
Thanks
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[Nicholas J Humfrey]

Anything is editable if someone builds an editor to allow you to edit
it...

I would have thought that the ISRC field would be something that the
user shouldn't be allowed to edit - it should be extracted from the CD
(if available) and then left alone...

This is the behavior of Max (CD ripping software for Mac OS X).

Is anyone aware of some software which does allow you to edit the
ISRC? (other than command-line tools)

nick.

Post by Marvin Hamlet
Hi,
As a publisher, I know that prior to publishing, I can populate my
ID3 tags with all sorts of information; but I'm also aware that any
end-user can simply delete or modify any of my tags if they so
choose. I know that using custom tags can make this a little more
difficult, since some tag editors are only capable of deleting
fields they recognise and not just ALL ID3 tags, but the potential
is still there.
I'd love it if there was a way to lock a tag somehow, and if any of
you know of a way, I'd be glad to hear it, but that's not my main
question today...
I want to add an ISRC code to a product, but I want to know if the
ISRC field in ID3 is simply an editible tag that can easily be
deleted/modified or if it can act like one of the fixed file
attributes like the ones I've just described?
If you compare it to ISAN, which is a similar system used for video
files, all the major video formats have a placeholder for an ISAN
code, which is separate from the tags, meaning one can be confident
of it remaining as part of the file regardless of any additional tag
editing. I want to know if ISRC can be embedded in the same way for
audio files?
I realise this may not really come under the ID3 domain, but I'm
hoping some of you could shed some light or point me in the right
direction?
Thanks
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[Paul Taylor]

Post by Nicholas J Humfrey
Anything is editable if someone builds an editor to allow you to edit
it...
I would have thought that the ISRC field would be something that the
user shouldn't be allowed to edit - it should be extracted from the CD
(if available) and then left alone...
This is the behavior of Max (CD ripping software for Mac OS X).
Is anyone aware of some software which does allow you to edit the
ISRC? (other than command-line tools)
nick.

Jaikoz does , and I think Picard as well

Paul

[Peter Bennett]

Hi
Jampal will edit the ISRC (TSRC) frame, and any other frame that is text
based (i.e. starts with T). You can also create the frame if it is not
present.Any frame can be deleted.
jampal.sf.net.

Peter

Post by Nicholas J Humfrey
Anything is editable if someone builds an editor to allow you to edit
it...
I would have thought that the ISRC field would be something that the
user shouldn't be allowed to edit - it should be extracted from the CD
(if available) and then left alone...
This is the behavior of Max (CD ripping software for Mac OS X).
Is anyone aware of some software which does allow you to edit the
ISRC? (other than command-line tools)
nick.

Post by Marvin Hamlet
Hi,
As a publisher, I know that prior to publishing, I can populate my
ID3 tags with all sorts of information; but I'm also aware that any
end-user can simply delete or modify any of my tags if they so
choose. I know that using custom tags can make this a little more
difficult, since some tag editors are only capable of deleting fields
they recognise and not just ALL ID3 tags, but the potential is still
there.
I'd love it if there was a way to lock a tag somehow, and if any of
you know of a way, I'd be glad to hear it, but that's not my main
question today...
I want to add an ISRC code to a product, but I want to know if the
ISRC field in ID3 is simply an editible tag that can easily be
deleted/modified or if it can act like one of the fixed file
attributes like the ones I've just described?
If you compare it to ISAN, which is a similar system used for video
files, all the major video formats have a placeholder for an ISAN
code, which is separate from the tags, meaning one can be confident
of it remaining as part of the file regardless of any additional tag
editing. I want to know if ISRC can be embedded in the same way for
audio files?
I realise this may not really come under the ID3 domain, but I'm
hoping some of you could shed some light or point me in the right
direction?
Thanks
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